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     An interview with  
    METON LUDLOW 
    Honobia, Oklahoma 
    Interview with METON LUDLOW Post Office: Honobia, Oklahoma Pete W. 
	Cole, Investigator Date of Interview: April 27, 1938 Transcribed & 
	Submitted by Teresa Young
  I am a full-blood Choctaw Indian, born in 
	this country in 1885, being fifty-three years of age. I live in the 
	neighborhood of Rock Creek Church of which I am a member.
  I did not 
	come from Mississippi but undoubtedly, my grandparents came from that state 
	when the United States Government compelled all of the Choctaws to move to 
	this country then called the Indian Territory. Upon their arrival they 
	selected and settled in a location of their choice and I am a descendant of 
	one of the families who settled near the community where I am living at the 
	present time.
  There are some people who do not care to live in a 
	rough, hilly or mountainous country, which is the condition of this portion 
	of country where I now live. There was no white settlement until in the last 
	twenty years, neither were there any roads, sawmills, or machinery at that 
	time. The nearest railroad was the St. Louis and San Francisco Railway and 
	Talihina and Tuskahoma were the only trading towns on the road at that time. 
	 Tuskahoma, Choctaw Capitol and the Choctaw Indian Girl School known as 
	Tuskahoma Academy, now abolished, were operated by the United States 
	Government and were located near the old town.
  There were no schools 
	in the community in those days and of course, the use of the English 
	language was unknown to the Indians, nor did we care to see any white men 
	because we did not know their language enough to carry on a conversation 
	with them.
  We spent most of our time hunting and fishing as there 
	were fine fishing streams and plenty of wild deer and turkeys and in the 
	Spring of the year, we planted corn and garden vegetables such as beans, 
	sweet potatoes, onion and pumpkins, which were our chief daily diet. 
	Blackberries were picked and canned when ripe and wild huckleberries which 
	grown on shrubs of the heath family and when ripe are of a dark blue color, 
	were abundant on the hills and on the mountain side. Apples and peaches, 
	when ripe were cut in strips, dried and put away in dry places until ready 
	for table use. String beans were strung and put away in a dark place to be 
	cured. When cured they looked black and musty but by treating in a solution 
	of warm water and some preparation known only to housewives, retained their 
	natural color and when thoroughly cooked, no one could notice the difference 
	in the taste from the fresh garden-grown.
  Popcorn was considered a 
	great prize amongst the women, more so of the aged ladies. At harvest or at 
	crop gathering time, these women graded out any amount of the best grade 
	corn in ears for seed, strung it and stored it away in a dry place or I have 
	seen it hanging on the wall in a room and no sum of money could buy it as it 
	was not for sale. The women took great pride in this and for ages this 
	custom of saving seeds of popcorn was practiced and followed.
  Meat of 
	wild game and beef were cured and stored away and was never known to spoil; 
	when cooked properly it had a delicious flavor and tasted as fresh and 
	wholesome as if just killed. This meat was usually cut up in thin slices and 
	sun-dried or cured by being left on top of houses. To realize good results, 
	it had to be attended to every few hours during the day and at sundown it 
	had to be heaped up in one pile and covered to keep dew off or carried to a 
	dry place, in case of rain during the night or at daytime, then spread out 
	again the next day after the sun was about two hours high. If neglected, if 
	dew should get on it or rain fall on it during the night it was sure to 
	spoil. This process of curing was continued until cured dry, then was stored 
	away for future use. Meat left on bones was barbecued, seasoned with black 
	or red pepper or both, mustarded and thoroughly cooked then put away in a 
	dry place. Venison and bear meat were given special attention by the women, 
	who usually cut it up in chunks about the size of a man’s hand, barbecued or 
	roasted it until done, strung it with strong cord or wire, or stuck a dry, 
	stout stick through each piece and stored them away. When ready for table 
	use, the cook washed the meat clean and cooked it according to taste or in a 
	scientific way that was known to them. Often a certain number or pieces, 
	enough for one meal, were placed by the cook in a mortar which was owned by 
	all women in the settlement and was used in beating corn, beat the meat 
	preparation with the corn pestle, then cooked it in hominy corn or grit and 
	other preparations known only to woman and when placed on the table is a 
	great dish.
  Household finishing, wall paper and paint were unknown in 
	those days and when a housewife wished to live in a nice comfortable house, 
	after having everything in the house in order, empty smoking tobacco sacks 
	or used-up thread spools which had been saved were strung and hung in the 
	room, which very often reached two and three times around the room. These 
	articles were all bought and the tobacco sacks and spools were all saved. It 
	took time but now and then a good heavy quilt was made out of the saving of 
	the tobacco sacks.
  Very often I have seen the head of the family dug 
	a hole under the floor in the house about three to four feet in diameter and 
	about four feet deep, with straw for bedding and store away sweet potatoes 
	and canned fruits during the Winter to keep them from freezing. This dugout 
	was similar to cellars, which were common in those days. These are some of 
	the ways of how the Choctaws lived in the Territorial days under their 
	tribal laws. 
    Transcribed & Submitted by Teresa Young  
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